Low tickover? and starting woes

#26 by 123hotchef , Fri May 15, 2015 10:43 pm

ha ha wait until i get the gold watch out in a minute

#27 by Jon Grimsby , Sat May 16, 2015 9:34 am

Just to add it started spot on this morning from cold and 'ticked over' at 8000ish RPM. Going to take it for a run and see what its like when its warm.

#28 by krutly , Sat May 16, 2015 9:41 am

Quote: Jon Grimsby wrote in post #12
The truck was serviced last June, its done 1300 miles since

could this be part of the problem ? has it been stood for a while and not used enough ? mine always gets half a filter full of forte when I service it and a good Italian tune up afterwards
I did have a similar problem with my bike a while back when I didn't use it enough.

#29 by ronniecabers , Sat May 16, 2015 11:39 am

Quote: Jon Grimsby wrote in post #27
'ticked over' at 8000ish RPM. .

Think your tick over is now a little high!

#30 by Jon Grimsby , Sat May 16, 2015 7:10 pm

Quote: ronniecabers wrote in post #29
Quote: Jon Grimsby wrote in post #27
'ticked over' at 8000ish RPM. .

Think your tick over is now a little high!

OOP's obviously 800RPM.

Tried to get some Forte but apparently it is only sold to garages and not motor factors, I had some millers diesel treatment at home so slung a load of that in and went to Scunny and back down the A180 at 70mph.

All seemed ok when I got home, started on the button, its been parked now for a few hours and have just been out to it and its as bad as before, spins over for to long before firing and low tick over, in every other way its running great.

#31 by Lemmy , Sat May 16, 2015 10:22 pm

You can buy Forte retail, no problem. Wurth is better though.

Have you checked you're getting voltage to the glow plug bus rail?

#32 by krutly , Sat May 16, 2015 10:27 pm

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forte ------------> Werbung: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORTE-Diesel-T...=item1e940cff65

#33 by Jon Grimsby , Sun May 17, 2015 9:44 am

Quote: Lemmy wrote in post #31
You can buy Forte retail, no problem. Wurth is better though.

Have you checked you're getting voltage to the glow plug bus rail?

I havnt checked the bus rail but as it starts spot on in the morning when its cold I would guess that will be ok but I will have a look.

As for Forte I was going on what the factor told me, couldn't find any at the motor factors I went to.

This morning it started spot on and 'ticked over' nicely, it seems to be when it starts getting warm that the problem starts? Slightly pressing the throttle pedal dosnt seem to make any difference.

#34 by ronniecabers , Sun May 17, 2015 10:47 am

Wonder if something like the fuel pressure sensor/regulator is breaking down when it gets warm?

#35 by Lemmy , Sun May 17, 2015 12:02 pm

Coolant temp sensor? Get round those sensors with a multimeter.

#36 by Jon Grimsby , Sun May 17, 2015 12:44 pm

Could be, just having a look where the sensors are and how to check the potentiometer out. Soon as MotoGP has finished I will be having a look.

#37 by Jon Grimsby , Tue May 19, 2015 8:31 pm

Havn't had chance to look any further but I did try pressing the filter bleed pump which made no difference. I am back on 12 hour shifts now for 7 days so will have to live with it, the thing that's really bugging me is, all was ok until I changed the ruddy fuel filter.

#38 by Jon Grimsby , Thu May 21, 2015 8:34 pm

My turn to drive tomorrow so I took the Animal for some fuel, when I undid the cap it hissed, not sure if it was pressure or vacuum , sound familiar to anyone?

It does seem to be getting steadily worse, still starts after a few seconds of turning and drives great when it does, I think the next move will be to fit a new filter head.

#39 by ronniecabers , Thu May 21, 2015 8:35 pm

Mine hisses sometimes Jon...specially when I'm low on diseasel

#40 by 123hotchef , Thu May 21, 2015 8:36 pm

if it hisses sounds like it aint a problem with air gettin in

#41 by 123hotchef , Thu May 21, 2015 8:36 pm

have ya checked the sensors yet

#42 by Jon Grimsby , Thu May 21, 2015 8:57 pm

It was about 1/4 tank, I don't like running them low, no I havnt checked any sensors yet, back on shift and to be honest I am struggling to find out what sensors to check and which terminals to cross etc. 7 days off after Tuesday so will get stuck back in then.

@123hotchef what's the word bro? Your turning all Ghetto, its 'have you' not have ya. Queens English please old boy.

#43 by 123hotchef , Thu May 21, 2015 9:00 pm

sorry old chap just getting into that text talk my friend, ha ha makes me feel young

The resistances and how to check them are in the workshop section oh I know it well man I mean dear boy

#44 by Rob1307 , Thu May 21, 2015 9:01 pm

When my truck had a starting problem I was advised to release the fuel cap before I left it overnight, if it's not venting correctly it creates a vacuum and try's to pull the diesel back from the pump

#45 by 123hotchef , Thu May 21, 2015 9:02 pm

did it work rob?

#46 by Jon Grimsby , Thu May 21, 2015 9:05 pm

Quote: Rob1307 wrote in post #44
When my truck had a starting problem I was advised to release the fuel cap before I left it overnight, if it's not venting correctly it creates a vacuum and try's to pull the diesel back from the pump

Good point and thank you for chipping in,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, but as Chef asked, 'did it work'?

#47 by Rob1307 , Thu May 21, 2015 9:12 pm

No, a knackered diesel pump was the final diagnosis after replacing the entire fuel system

#48 by Jon Grimsby , Thu May 21, 2015 9:13 pm

Quote: Rob1307 wrote in post #47
No, a knackered diesel pump was the final diagnosis after replacing the entire fuel system

Oh well thank you very bloody much

#49 by 123hotchef , Thu May 21, 2015 9:13 pm

i thought it was 2 pumps man

#50 by Jon Grimsby , Thu May 21, 2015 9:14 pm

Only joking Rob, am thinking it isn't that as all was ok before I gave it a service.

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