Evening all!
So, Mrs Diver calls earlier to inform that the truck has died end route back from her stables.
Describes:
Engine struggles, rev counter begins flucating wildly (foot off accelerator), EML comes on then all warning lights on fash lights follow before engine dies completely.
When I get there, check and test the following:
Diagnostics - 49 Over boost
Belts - all present and correct
Oil level - between dipstick marks, but note oil dripping from somewhere underneath (to dark to investigate fully)
Timing belt - intact with reasonable deflection
Fuel tank - 3/4 full (with diesel, I filled it last!)
HG - no bubbles or discolouration in coolant or visible inside rocker cover.
Battery has good charge and turns over well.
No other obvious defects visible
I turned the engine over, turns over fine and catches, but then dies in seconds.
Recent service history: all filters and oil about 3k ago (done by me), HG and new Head about 5k ago (pro mech)
Guys - I need to get this back on road asap. What should I look to test next and how? Thanks in advance!!
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Any smoke out the back when you do start it?
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No more than the slight short white puff when cold started.
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This is a stab in the dark from me , do you have a split fuel line that is letting air in ? Stack pipes and metal fuel lines are prone to corroding and rubber one perish and split . The fluctuating Rev counter could be electrical if the engine was running ok and not hunting , could be a bad earth or speed sensor on the pump . Beyond that I'm pretty stumped
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if foot is kept on accelerator ...does it run? ( opbviously not fully down lol)
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oh ... and what diagnostic did you use to read it with?
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Had another thought , when mine played up ages ago ( turning over catching but not starting ) I gave it a small sniff of easy start ( not the best stuff to use ) and got it running like that then dug into it to find the cause
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Have you removed the EGR or blanked it
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Does the primer pump get hard when pumped?
If not it may be a sign air is entering the fuel line
You can always try running it off a can of fuel direct onto the filter head.
This will eliminate stack pipes split
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@ronniecabers - didn't try with loads of accelerator tbh, bit nervy! Delphi diagnostic connected to my laptop.
@AD and @Rob1307 - I did wonder about fuel not getting through. Was a new Milners filter that went on 3k ago, would you expect it to fail so soon? Hadn't considered lines, will trace them back in daylight. Do these have a fuel lifter pump or anything like that?
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Have you put fuel in lately and is it possible petrol
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Fuelled 2 days ago, definitely derv (I'm a bit odd about stuff like that!)
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Quote: Major Malfunction wrote in post #9
Have you removed the EGR or blanked it
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Check if you can to see that the crank pulley is running true when trying to start, may need someone else turning key whilst you look at pulley.
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One of my many fuel problems was a split o ring on the fitting at the bottom of the fuel filter
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shogun sport , not much I can say about it really other than it’s slower than the l200 🤷♂️
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You can eliminate the fuel lines by running the fuel pump from a clean filtered can of diesel if necessary
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My two penny worth, was the engine up to temp? Had it been run for long? The symptoms sound exactly like a problem I randomly once had, I had been driving for about an hour between 60-70mph, when the truck kind of went into limp mode, Rev counter fluctuating, EML light was on, complete loss of power, cut out a couple of times, but started on the key again. I limped the truck home, parked it up out the front of the house & disconnected the battery, left it for about 3hrs, reconnected the battery, fired her up & away she went, fault never seen again???
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Quote: Major Malfunction wrote in post #14Quote: Major Malfunction wrote in post #9
Have you removed the EGR or blanked it
Yes No
A stuck valve gives the wrong air / fuel mixture and can cause it to cut out
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@Major Malfunction - egr blanked and cooler removed (sorry, missed first post!)
@spud thanks I'll have a look at that tomorrow
Consneus appears to be to look at the fuel system. If start by tryin to bleed the filter again and then run from a clean jerry can of diesel.
Thabkyou all for your suggestions so far!
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Did your missus see any smoke on the drive before it cut out
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She says not, but she routinely fails to see stuff (including barns while reversing, hedges whilst driving generally and pheasants generally!)
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Looking at the age of the truck air in the fuel most likely from the stack pipes.
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@Major Malfunction - forgive the ignorance, what and where are the stack pipes??
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Quote: Major Malfunction wrote in post #12
Have you put fuel in lately and is it possible petrol
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