RE: mayday mayday mayday truck will not start .

#26 by 123hotchef , Mon Sep 11, 2017 1:12 pm

is the eml on?


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RE: mayday mayday mayday truck will not start .

#27 by johnnyfaulty , Mon Sep 11, 2017 3:07 pm

eml light comes on with ignition ,cant tell if it will stay on as truck wont start ,

i did put the eml bulb in as it had been removed at some point .


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#28 by 123hotchef , Mon Sep 11, 2017 3:18 pm

have u tried starting it with the vac line pulled off of the throttle body


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#29 by johnnyfaulty , Mon Sep 11, 2017 3:55 pm

Quote: 123hotchef wrote in post #28
have u tried starting it with the vac line pulled off of the throttle body

not as yet .

what line would that be ?


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#30 by 123hotchef , Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:50 pm

Only 1 3mm vac line actuator


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#31 by johnnyfaulty , Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:00 pm

Quote: 123hotchef wrote in post #30
Only 1 3mm vac line actuator

found it and yes just tried it with pipe removed ..



would a fcuked crank sensor stop pump from pumping fuel ..?

also my primer keeps needing to be pumped after each go of trying to start ( not sure if i mentioned that ) fuel lines checked no leaks pressant . pickup lines at tank are like new ,

looking more like front seal of pump or internal stuff in pump gone ??

just trying to rule all the obvious small stuff before forking out 200 notes on a pump


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#32 by 123hotchef , Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:03 pm

Yes a fucked crank sensor would do that


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#33 by ronniecabers , Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:26 pm

I'd be checking that crank sensor ... may well be the route of all your problems....


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#34 by johnnyfaulty , Mon Sep 11, 2017 9:08 pm

i will look at it tomorrow see what i can find


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#35 by 123hotchef , Mon Sep 11, 2017 9:22 pm

good luck


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#36 by johnnyfaulty , Mon Sep 11, 2017 10:23 pm

thanks , think i may need it


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#37 by johnnyfaulty , Tue Sep 12, 2017 10:35 am

quick update .

been out smorning to find the long fin on my crank blade bent . and 1 of the small ones ever so slightly bent , bad scrubbing on the back edge of them too . so it looks like it has warn away the magnet in the sensor . it now sits flush with the plastic housing . think it is ment to stick out a bit .

not sure if this would stop fuel cumming out my pump but worth a go i spose .

i have a new crank blade in the shed so gotta order up a sensor i think .

any ideas if the little magnet is ment to stick out or sit flush ?



i feel it is close to starting


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#38 by 123hotchef , Tue Sep 12, 2017 11:34 am

yes mate the CSS will talk to the ecu which will then in turn talk to the fuel pump. I have a CCS in the workshop I can check later for you if you need me too at work right now.


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#39 by johnnyfaulty , Tue Sep 12, 2017 2:33 pm

Quote: 123hotchef wrote in post #38
yes mate the CSS will talk to the ecu which will then in turn talk to the fuel pump. I have a CCS in the workshop I can check later for you if you need me too at work right now.

thats cool yes that would be great .

just fitted a new blade as sensor was looking like new apart from the magnet looking low and still no go so i have removed the fuel pump , not sure if i can bench test it though , it was wet with fuel under the timing control valve and the primer goes soft as shit after a couple cranks , my motto if fuel can get out air can get in , not found where it is leaking from yet though .

prob gonna change the pump now as it's out if i can find 1 , will stick a wanted post up


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#40 by johnnyfaulty , Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:14 pm

well guys quick update for you . so today i popped into a local breakers and got me a fuel pump (150 notes ) aswell as a crank sensor ,and oil tube and dipstck , bonus ,

get home . it bloody lashed it down just as i got the fuel pump half in .. soaked (change of clothes number 1) me having the bit between my teeth went back out as soon as it eased off , cracked on . get to the starting up bit . yes i got fuel pissing out my cracked off injector . thank F;'k i thought , put intercooler on ect ect , now for running her up propper to temp , it was rough as fook looked like the motor was gonna shake out at 1 point then it revved a tad on its own and settled down . still not quite right bit good enough for now i thought . turned around to see plumes of white / blue smoke that stang the fcukin nose . any way long story short my primer is still going soft . looking like a dodgy primer /crap milner fuel filter ( always have issues with the milner 1's not sealing or fitting right )

so tomorrow i am popping up my friends farm to pinch a filter primer off the scrap truck so fingers crossed it will be right as rain ..


i just remembered though tonight as i was in the tub avin a scrub that i didnt tighten up the bolt on the top balance shaft sprocket (changed the seals today while i was in there .) what a tube .

good job i enjoy working on l200's ffs


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RE: mayday mayday mayday truck will not start .

#41 by Heathen , Thu Sep 14, 2017 7:45 am

Sounds promising - think the primer will go soft when it's running cos the fuel is getting drawn in by the pump, so losing pressure - never really tested this theory myself though... try leaving it for a while without the truck running and see if it goes soft - you have a problem for sure then. True that milner's filters don't seal easily (I don't use them any more) and the filter housing seems to be a weak point in the system too - I think I'm needing another one too. The white smoke definitely looks like air getting in, but can also be caused by broken sensors/sensor wiring, but you'd probably have an EML on if that were the case.


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#42 by 123hotchef , Thu Sep 14, 2017 8:00 am

milners boshi filters are shite they don't have much filtration in them either


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#43 by johnnyfaulty , Thu Sep 14, 2017 7:42 pm

ok so update again guys ..

well i fitted a good used primer and a filter , she is a right cnut to start still .. and smoke , holy shit i seen the flying scottsmans stack smoke less .. it does clear after a few miles but it dont go well at all . when smoke has cleared it will idel fairly well but you can see,hear and feel there is a splutter . after turning off engine for like 5 mins it cranks for ages before it splutters into life . when cold it will not go at all unless you use eather ...


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#44 by Heathen , Thu Sep 14, 2017 11:57 pm

First off make sure fuel system is bled properly - after bleeing properly the primer will be solid, leave it a couple of hours without starting engine then see if it is still solid - if not you've got an air leak, which you for certain want to rule out first.


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#45 by johnnyfaulty , Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:11 am


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#46 by johnnyfaulty , Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:06 am

think i found the issue .


i got a 4d55 block with a 4d56 head DHO!!


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#47 by 123hotchef , Wed Sep 20, 2017 6:48 am

oh no


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#48 by ronniecabers , Wed Sep 20, 2017 7:57 am

I thought you already knew the block was older , originally you said it came out of a 2002 and were going to expect a slight compression loss, but you say you have a 4d55 block but weren't they only fitted in very early L200's? .. Its also only a 2.3 block.....
A 2002 should have been a 4d56 block, I think the engine must have been changed before....


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#49 by johnnyfaulty , Sun Sep 24, 2017 6:53 pm

Quote: ronniecabers wrote in post #48
I thought you already knew the block was older , originally you said it came out of a 2002 and were going to expect a slight compression loss, but you say you have a 4d55 block but weren't they only fitted in very early L200's? .. Its also only a 2.3 block.....
A 2002 should have been a 4d56 block, I think the engine must have been changed before....

your right sir .

it did come out of a 2002 animal , i got it as a non runner for parts , got it home and found it too good to scrap , so i chucked in a engine i had spare and sold it . keeping the non running engine . i took off rocker cover in my shed to find it had broken the rocker shaft . so i thought ah easy fix .. i will just put it in shed for when i need it


didn't think about it till i bought this truck . i was putting it togeather and thought the pistons look different , so i started looking online , found it to read that its ok to do what i did . well it turns out no you cant cos it dont bloody work


any way i have fitted a good used engine from a shogun sport now , she sings along perfect

thanks for all the suggestions guys .


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