I mooted the idea with Stormforce of using his ball joint spacers and Lez's adjustable shackles combined with the torsion bars to make a 4 inch lift without using body lift blocks. Then it dawned on me today, I would need +4 inch shocks right?

So is a body lift the best way for me to get another 1.5inches higher? Or are there solutions to 4 inch shocks and how much wonger will they cost?

ome do plus lift shocks which are physically longer, and allow greater travel within their internal design. £100-ish each

Got any links? I've seen +2 shocks around. ome... is that old man emu?

yep- very robust - great design, mine have been brilliant

I got mine from gwyn davies 4x4 - who does landy stuff, but he gets them from the importer - I checked on the OME home site for techy details

no you would only need a max of +2, you still have the bump stops in place so the droop and rebound should only change by an inch or so.the trick is to get the shock length a little longer than you maximum travel.that way you are not bottoming the shock out everytime you lift a wheel.

Another four inch lift on mine and the only shock I would get it trying to get in or out of the bloody thing. Not saying I am short but if it wasnt for my feet I would never be able to touch the ground

Posted by: surfenstein

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no you would only need a max of +2, you still have the bump stops in place so the droop and rebound should only change by an inch or so.the trick is to get the shock length a little longer than you maximum travel.that way you are not bottoming the shock out everytime you lift a wheel.

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I see where you are going but if you're supposed to run +2 shocks when off road if you only have +2.5 inch shackles and torsion bars wound up.... then surely you'd be over reaching these shocks for a 4 inch shackle lift? You can see the lift I have currently in my signature. If was to fit a body lift on top then +2 shocks would do. Or am I missing something?

I've just read your intro thread Surfenstien. Seems you probably know what you're talking about! This is good news as +2 shocks are common and cheap!

Posted by: Yoda

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Posted by: surfenstein

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no you would only need a max of +2, you still have the bump stops in place so the droop and rebound should only change by an inch or so.the trick is to get the shock length a little longer than you maximum travel.that way you are not bottoming the shock out everytime you lift a wheel.

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I see where you are going but if you're supposed to run +2 shocks when off road if you only have +2.5 inch shackles and torsion bars wound up.... then surely you'd be over reaching these shocks for a 4 inch shackle lift? You can see the lift I have currently in my signature. If was to fit a body lift on top then +2 shocks would do. Or am I missing something?

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Thats a common misconception it all depends on the type of lift and height of lift.most OME shocks will quite easily cope with say a 2" suspension lift without the need to modify/change the shocks.but you still have to take into account the full droop, rebound/ flex /axle articulation and cv angles.theres no point in fitting +4 shocks on a 4" suspension lift if your suspension only flexes 2".sorry if that sound abrupt,its not ment to be,and just ignore me if i trying to tell you how to suck eggs.
oh and by the way.OME stands for original manufacturers equipment.Not old man emu.in this case.

I think i only had +2's on the surf with a 4" lift and i off roaded that with no problems

yep you did.i remember that lift.lol

Yea i travelled up to you in one of the worst lot of weather i have ever driven in and Andy came over from Wales,and Shirl did a great breakfast

yea ya barstool i got bloody soaked that wkend.

should of had a waterproof garage then

Posted by: surfenstein

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Posted by: Yoda

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Posted by: surfenstein

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no you would only need a max of +2, you still have the bump stops in place so the droop and rebound should only change by an inch or so.the trick is to get the shock length a little longer than you maximum travel.that way you are not bottoming the shock out everytime you lift a wheel.

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I see where you are going but if you're supposed to run +2 shocks when off road if you only have +2.5 inch shackles and torsion bars wound up.... then surely you'd be over reaching these shocks for a 4 inch shackle lift? You can see the lift I have currently in my signature. If was to fit a body lift on top then +2 shocks would do. Or am I missing something?

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Thats a common misconception it all depends on the type of lift and height of lift.most OME shocks will quite easily cope with say a 2" suspension lift without the need to modify/change the shocks.but you still have to take into account the full droop, rebound/ flex /axle articulation and cv angles.theres no point in fitting +4 shocks on a 4" suspension lift if your suspension only flexes 2".sorry if that sound abrupt,its not ment to be,and just ignore me if i trying to tell you how to suck eggs.
oh and by the way.OME stands for original manufacturers equipment.Not old man emu.in this case.

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Thanks Surfenstien. I'm learning all the time and fast too. So I appreciate the help.

A +2 will cope with alot on an L200. I think you would need to SAS onan L200 to warrent anything biger than a +2 shock.

Looks like i may have to get new shocks for mine as they are rusted to hell

Remove and test them, just because the body is corroded does not always mean they are U/S.

If they prove to be serviceable, rub them down and paint them up.

Posted by: Stick

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A +2 will cope with alot on an L200. I think you would need to SAS onan L200 to warrent anything biger than a +2 shock.

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SAS??

the outer casing is starting to break up Stick and that's just the rears that i have noticed today

Solid Axle Swap,

Like whats on the rear but getting rid of leaf springs and fitting real suspension,

would love to do that but i just couldn't afford it at the moment

Gotcha. Yeah me too Rich. Think I'm going to go for some shocks and uprated springs. Old man emu maybe. With Lez's shackles and your ball joint spacers. Cheap four inch lift without the disadvantage of a body lift. And a good enough ride for what I want to do.

I run standard OE leaf springs with 3 leafs removed and standard front torsion bars. Held up no bother and the rear leafs are better than OME in my opinion.

What +2 shocks would you recommend Stick? For the casual adventure day off roader? As opposed to hard core off roading.