Ok after lots of searching I'm no further forward
2006 new shape warrior 134 bhp
Now from what I can see the 2.5 td DID engine comes in different power outputs and the 134 bhp is bottom of the tree
Should I put a tuning box on it (and if so which one)
Or should I just take it for a remap (and if so where does anyone recommended ) and what questions should I ask
Or should I just leave it as it is

Thanks in advance guys

a remap is a good way of increasing power bud, but can equally have no effect or worse , and you can only do it once. The overall view here would say that the only chip thats anywhere near safe is the mitsi one. - we have a link with newtriton.net - the aussies do a lot of chipping and remaps, you`ll find a lot of info and anecdotal evidence - check them out - its a free forum like ours and friendly. Manraj and myself are members there too - check it out

Smarter folks than me will be along in a minute but there's a school of thought that suggests unreliabilty (and expensive unreliability!) increases in these motors as you increase the horsepower.
Having said that, there are definitely people who have chipped or remapped and are happy, but it may not be as straightforward as it is with other engines.

Good luck!

i wouldnt bother buddy, fuel economy goes out the window and the engines are weaker than my willpower in a sweetie shop

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I guess the extra power is handy if you do a lot of towing but having seen the costly disasters I would only have one if it was fitted originally in manufacture.

Standard is best, although as you have noticed they do sell standard ones with higher bhp.
Re-map is ok but it's not easy to reverse/remove it and you can't keep it if you sell the truck.
I did put an ad for a genuine power pack in the fore sale section if you want to go the box route.

As said though, no need unless you feel you need the extra power.

Right, there is a lot of feeling/belief that chip boxes are dangerous. Though this has not been proven I personally would not have one. Reasons being they are an off-the-shelf product designed for a generic 4D56 engine and not tailored to your truck you are driving. What this means/does is an open ended argument at present.

Remaps however, done correctly by someone who knows what they're doing are perfectly safe. In this country most engines that have ECU's are electronically held back a little. This is so that the manufacturer can make one engine to fit all the emission and technical regulations laid out by all countries, rather than changing engine spec for each country. It happens here that our regulations aren't the tightest so you can 'unlimit' the engine somewhat. Hence why we have EGR's here but can take them off without failing the MOT. (Thought that might not be the case on new shapes as it might mess with the more complex ECU) Suffice to say there is more power hiding in your engine that you can safely use and is only held back for economic reasons of the manufacturer. Hence why the top spec new shape has 160Bhp. Also look at what the Tom Walkinshaw L200 has. If someone has had a remap done and it didn't work then the company/person in question is a muppet and didn't do it right. A good remap is tailored to your specific truck, and there will be minor variations in performance to the next new shape L200. Done right it's perfectly safe. We live in the digital age and even something like engines are now digitally controlled. It's not unsafe. It's just unsafe if done wrong. Same as more boost isn't unsafe. But if you whack a super charger on then yes it will be unsafe. Almost ALL performance tuning these days involves an ECU remap as the final stage. It's the thing that gets everything working together as it should. Check out my thread entitled "who says you can't tune a 4D56" to understand this a little more. Also that thread will show just what CAN be done. Sorry to anyone else here, but also don't worry about the engine being 'weak.' Again that thread will show just how far you have to go before you cause mechanical failure. Our engines have gasket and head failure after over heating. As does EVERY other engine out there. It's true you can cause this buy putting too much performance into the engine. But not from a 'tame' remap. It is my view that people with blown heads actually had a normal over heating issue. Naturally this will blow a head whether it's a V8 or 4pot......

Take a loook at Celtic tuning and Diesel Bob. They will both tell you what can safely be done with your ECU and you'll find it marry's perfectly with the maximum BHP and Torque that Mitsi gave the top end trucks.

Some of the new shapes are 175bhp from the factory.
Rather than have a remap (unless you are going to set it up on rollers and have it done specifically to your truck, the 'box' that mitsubishi/ralliart sell is the simple choice as, apart from being mitsubishi approved (or fitted as standard on some trucks) you can just unplug it if you don't like the drive or mpg etc.

Agreed the RalliArt box is the only one I would trust. I didn't realise you could buy them aftermarket? Good news........

The other option that has been mentioned is one of those Sprint booster pedal things has anyone had one fitted to their truck and if so was you pleased with it?

A what??

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Werbung: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sprint-Booster...=item3cc01f48a7
Just reading some reviews over on newtriton.net seems like its another option

So kinda like an enhancement for the FBW throttle then. I'd see what the new triton boys think then, if I was you.

This bit of kit does not tune or add anything to your performance. All it actually does is shorten the length of travel of your accellerator pedal. Means for less pressure on your pedal you will reach top revs. Sounds good in theory but makes life more difficult in traffic.
Having reead some of the reports on the net most seem to think its a scam but at best it is a total waste of money.

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This bit of kit does not tune or add anything to your performance. All it actually does is shorten the length of travel of your accellerator pedal. Means for less pressure on your pedal you will reach top revs. Sounds good in theory but makes life more difficult in traffic.
Having reead some of the reports on the net most seem to think its a scam but at best it is a total waste of money.

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Agree. Just had a look at the ebay listing and, given that (on the new shape anyway), the accelerator is just a great big potentiometer, this is just $280 worth of resistor.

You could get the same effect by wearing a heavy pair of boots, and it would be just as difficult in traffic.

nah it is a good bit of kit, really sharpened up the throttle response, no issues in traffic at all. Currently on my shogun and it feels like it has more power even though its all in my head

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What about a Decat on a new shape would that make any difference?~
Werbung: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-Shape-Stai...=item35b9c7b4f1

dont bother with decat, prob the worst money i spent......................... it did sweet f*** all.......... Im currently looking at a chip express chip and a sprint booster, loads of the guys on the oz site have a similar setup and they swear by it

I've just this min ordered a sprint booster form eBay £195 all in from a uk company
Might have a look at this chip express chip as well

My uncle has a chip express chip on his 3.2 l200 in kenya and he just bought one for his shogun as well, he swears by them so i might be going down that route

BUGGER just seen a genuine Rallitronic box go on ebay for £56 and forgot to bid for it HAHA
Someone has got a bargain on that one it hadnt even ever been fitted to a truck

Would be very interested to hear how you guys get on with the sprint boosters.I have cable throttle so irrelevant to me really. Just curious.......

All those who have them on the oz site love them, they say its like more power without actually adding more power..........its quite a weird concept